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Post by Oneiros on Jul 7, 2016 9:17:31 GMT
Well, the Prentiss case is well and truly back in the foreground now after Sasha's investigations reveal what we probably all suspected had happened after MAG #6 (Squirm). If you need to refamiliarise yourself with that casefile, you can now do so on a shiny new wiki (http://the-magnus-archives.wikia.com/) thanks to spooniermist! So, lots going on in this episode as we find out that Jane or her minions have definitely been around the Institute, that her original stay in hospital didn't go well for many folk and the incidents involving Institute staff are getting more serious. Some really lovely characterisation here, particularly from/about Sasha but also the Head Archivist. And poor Martin (who I am going to be forever conflating with Alex now  ), particularly given Sasha's assertion about *his* lack of self-preservation and then she goes to the meeting anyway. And we add a new question to the mix now: Just who is 'Michael' and is he helper or harbinger? |
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Post by spooniermist on Jul 7, 2016 10:41:12 GMT
Write up is here: the-magnus-archives.wikia.com/wiki/MAG_26:_DistortionSquirm details here: the-magnus-archives.wikia.com/wiki/MAG_6:_SquirmJane Prentiss here: the-magnus-archives.wikia.com/wiki/Jane_Prentiss - although I've not updated this base to the Jane Prentiss page. I don't know what Michael's agenda is. I don't think he's a harbinger, but also not a helper because he basically seemed okay to let Sasha die when Timothy struck. It could be that he's not trying to help the archivists, but he's trying to stop the Flesh Hive (shudder). If we are to believe that there are two cults, one of open eyes and the other closed (possibly the People's Church of the Divine Host), it's possible that the worms are allied with the closed eye and he is aligned with the open? I'm not sure, though. Maybe that's a stretch. What concerns me mostly is two things: 1) these silver worms appear to be around the place, as they talked about crunching them regularly. Given that we know they can jump and it's impossible to notice when one is in you, I wonder if the whole damn institute is already infected. Baring a deus ex machina I don't see how the institute won't turn into a giant living worm-hive shortly. 2) Martin is infected. No doubt. That's why Jane Prentiss left him alone, and we know from Sasha that you can hardly feel it when they get in you. I really hope Sims notices this, I mean he should do, he seems quite pragmatic. Even so. Something else that occurred to me on my second listening of this recording (no, YOU'RE obsessed! shut up!), the liaisons and missing eyes that Timothy and Jane have sounds very similar to Toby Carlyle from MAG 18: The Man Upstairs, although admittedly he didn't have holes spewing worms. Could be that he's somehow involved... Not sure how, though. Could explain why a hazmat team went to his apartment. |
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Post by Samwise on Jul 7, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
I don't think he was ok with letting her die, I think he was trying (in his own slightly evil way) to let her learn about how the fire extinguisher works on the worms. he did remove the worm from her so he's helping a bit.
you might be right about Martin, which is really sad. But I'm sure we would have seen some signs. It was 3 weeks between Timothy Hodge's Statement and the events that occurred with him and Harriett, and he wasn't showing signs of infection during his statement.
I didn't connect it to MAG 18, good catch, ill have to re-listen to that one. But I did connect this to MAG 3 - Across the Street (just a theory). In MAG 3 we are told a guy called Graham Folger goes from having short dark hair to having short curly blonde hair. this is thought to have happened after a long thin arm and body (mistaken as a drain pipe) crawled into his apartment. perhaps Sasha is describing the same thing?
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Post by Samwise on Jul 7, 2016 13:52:20 GMT
On a completely different note... what the hell was Tim's April fools joke?!
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Post by spooniermist on Jul 7, 2016 14:28:45 GMT
Wasn't it Martin's April Fool's joke? Interesting about MAG 3, but Amy Patel wasn't viewing it through warped glass, although maybe any glass would do it. It raises and interesting question of if the thing calling itself Michael can assume other shapes. |
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Post by jennymarie03 on Jul 7, 2016 19:06:59 GMT
Hi everyone--first time posting and I made the account to bring up the idea that Michael could be the Michael Crew from episode 4 and episode 17. In episode 4, he was the childhood friend of the narrator who was struck by lightening and developed a scar similar to a drawing in a Lightner (sp?) book. In episode 17, he had previously taken out another Lightner book from the library the narrator worked at. I'm on my phone so some details may be off, but that's the gist of it.
He might not be the same person but Michael Crew has already been brought up twice and it seems more than a coincidence (just like Sasha mentioned!).
If it's him and he is trying the stop Jane Prentiss and her ilk, maybe he got some tips from Lightner?
I feel like I'm treading into Lost territory, trying to make connections....
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Post by spooniermist on Jul 7, 2016 19:31:05 GMT
I hadn't even thought of that, there is in fact a Michael Crew in MAG 4, but I can't find one in MAG 17: The Bone Turner's Tale, is that the one you meant? The bone turner in that one is Jarid Hopworth.
Now you mention it, though, Michael's heavy and sharp hands is very similar to how Jarid ended up in the end. You may be on to something there! The timelines could match up.
I'm not 100% sure about him being Micheal Crew, however. As Sasha seemed to think that that wasn't its name from the way he talked. But it's possible it is Jarid Hopworth!
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Post by jennymarie03 on Jul 7, 2016 19:55:09 GMT
Just relistened and around the 4:45 mark, the narrator mentions "The Bone Turner's Tale" and four other books, all checked out by Michael Crew. Didn't listen to the whole thing, but I think Jared was the one that checked it out after.
If it is the same Michael, it could be that he once was Michael Crew but now he's something else entirely.
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Post by Samwise on Jul 8, 2016 8:55:52 GMT
Hey Jennymarie03! welcome to the weird and wonderful world of the Magnus Archives!
Great catch! that's so interesting. and don't worry, treading into lost territory is what we do best here! its all speculation until the big J himself teases us with another Statement.
In the timeline Bone Turners Tale happens in 2007, Page Turner happened in 2013 but the section you are speaking about in Page Turner happened when they were both 8 years old so defiantly before 2007.
I just query how come Michael Crew got involved in all of this? It seemed like the lightning strike was an accident. but he intentionally left the book in the library.
And such a co-incidence that both Michael Crew and Domonic Swain both had a Lightner in their possession at one time or another.
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Post by spooniermist on Jul 8, 2016 9:11:33 GMT
Great Scott! What a good spot with Micheal Crew, I totally missed that (I literally recall writing up the case for the wiki and thinking "his name won't be important").
I guess he could have worked with or for Leitner (I think that's how you spell it). Really well spotted though! And Samwise is right, we're all about mad speculation here (in before Tim, Sasha and Martin are just Jonathan Sims' multiple personalities made manifest).
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Post by Samwise on Jul 8, 2016 9:18:51 GMT
(I literally recall writing up the case for the wiki and thinking "his name won't be important"). it seems we must think every name, every insect and item is connected somehow! |
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Post by Jonny on Jul 8, 2016 10:19:00 GMT
Not every name. Most of the people mentioned in the statements are just random bystanders. It's just that certain things can make a bystander... less random. |
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Post by Samwise on Jul 8, 2016 11:30:52 GMT
Not every name. Most of the people mentioned in the statements are just random bystanders. It's just that certain things can make a bystander... less random.
Its not gonna stop me making an entire list of every character mentioned in your story's! who knows what makes them less random...it could have been they all decided to go for marmalade instead of jam on their toast that morning!
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Post by Coil on Jul 8, 2016 21:53:13 GMT
Not every name. Most of the people mentioned in the statements are just random bystanders. It's just that certain things can make a bystander... less random. Please say I'm not the only one who kinda resents Jonny for being here?! Don't get me wrong, it's great, but it's like having Prentiss lurking around, subtly reminding us that we have no way of knowing if we're right or wrong...  |
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Post by Samwise on Jul 9, 2016 8:52:23 GMT
Not every name. Most of the people mentioned in the statements are just random bystanders. It's just that certain things can make a bystander... less random. Please say I'm not the only one who kinda resents Jonny for being here?! Don't get me wrong, it's great, but it's like having Prentiss lurking around, subtly reminding us that we have no way of knowing if we're right or wrong... Oh I love that he's around on the forums, its like a god looking down on us lesser beings, subtly giving us tiny morsels of the great picture he has. He must love the amount of creative scepticism and theories his work has produced weather we are right or wrong. Totally not trying to give you a god complex Jonny, I couldn't think of a better way of describing it  |
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), particularly given Sasha's assertion about *his* lack of self-preservation and then she goes to the meeting anyway.
