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Post by Oneiros on Dec 22, 2016 9:56:26 GMT
We head to the forest steppes of 1950s Soviet Union for today's tale of circus wonder and Strange Music... But I guess what most of you have been anticipating is finally here - we get the words of Gertrude Robinson herself in all their audio wonder. And start to ponder if, perhaps, the Institute's Head Archivists have a tendency to be of similar mindsets? We have reference to the calliope and the Circus of the Other again, alongside a peek behind the tent flaps that seems to throw up some interesting links. We hope you all put red string on your Xmas wishlists this year...  |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Dec 22, 2016 10:56:31 GMT
Fun fact: apparently Strange Music is completely missing from the timeline page of the wiki. Oops!
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Post by cannonlongshot on Dec 22, 2016 11:01:59 GMT
Also - Gertrude is surprised that the children got lucky, but that she would be less surprised if it had happened "after Denikin left".
Nikolai Denikin was a bad influence on this strange, evil group.
Somehow the scariest part of this to me is the thought that "Uncle Nick" might actually be more than he appears to be...
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Post by spooniermist on Dec 22, 2016 16:56:45 GMT
Finally we got get a Gertrude case and I can't listen to it for another few days! Damnit! I might have to have a sneaky listen before bed, that's not a bad idea, right?
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Post by jubjub on Dec 22, 2016 17:25:22 GMT
Hmm. Those two large men in overalls who lift Yuri and ask him to leave the tiger alone... do they remind anyone else of the delivery men from B&H? Perhaps the polka dot clown isn't the only member of An Other Circus we've seen before. Can't wait to hear more of Gertrude's tapes!
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Post by strikerzilla on Dec 22, 2016 18:45:25 GMT
Hmm. Those two large men in overalls who lift Yuri and ask him to leave the tiger alone... do they remind anyone else of the delivery men from B&H? Perhaps the polka dot clown isn't the only member of An Other Circus we've seen before. Can't wait to hear more of Gertrude's tapes! Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking, ESPECIALLY when their speech pattern was described. Speaking of weird speech patterns, the lady at the gate, could she be a "not person" who wasn't successful or in development like the "smiths"in MAG 34? also! I'm guessing it's assumed his brother turned into some horror if he hadn't successfully walked the tightrope. Maybe some of the freak show got loose and caused events for past episodes? I'm so curious about it now. There just seems to be so many similar things in this episode! Lastly Gertrude's voice actor is perfect! Her voice is so wonderful |
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Post by tohlemite on Dec 22, 2016 18:52:17 GMT
Fun fact: apparently Strange Music is completely missing from the timeline page of the wiki. Oops! Not-Sasha is even stealing from the wiki! I find it interesting that Gertrude took so long to get this down on tape. Is this her conducting her own in investigation? Johnny did mention that these tapes were better labeled than the ones lying around the archive. |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Dec 22, 2016 21:07:52 GMT
Lastly Gertrude's voice actor is perfect! Her voice is so wonderful Yes! Her voice is somehow exactly what I imagined, kudos to whoever is doing the voice! tohlemite - I'm thinking the opposite: once she started the recording process, she started noticing things were linked together, and gave up trying to make sense of the horror ;P |
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Post by iamjoe500 on Dec 22, 2016 22:23:21 GMT
Hearing Gertrude was amazing. I've been pondering her death since the end of season one, and I think it's very unlikely she was merely shot and killed in cold blood, as Sims thinks. The dream sequence from "Antonio Blake" in MAG 11 seems to point to a special death coming to her, as opposed to a normal death like his father's heart attack, and I suspect if she was just going to be shot the black tendrils wouldn't have been giant, nor would they have pulsed with red light. The curses set up against her in the forest in MAG 37 seem to support this idea of a extraordinary death in store for Gertrude.
Instead, I think she may have been shot in order to prevent something worse from happening. My theory is that the closed eye Divine Host cult were trying to cause an event or possession with Gertrude at the apex. When she was shot, this process was interrupted, leading to the screams at Hither Green Chapel mentioned in MAG 25.
Either way, I'm out of red string. Better go buy some more.
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Post by spooniermist on Dec 23, 2016 20:29:48 GMT
Instead, I think she may have been shot in order to prevent something worse from happening. My theory is that the closed eye Divine Host cult were trying to cause an event or possession with Gertrude at the apex. When she was shot, this process was interrupted, leading to the screams at Hither Green Chapel mentioned in MAG 25. Either way, I'm out of red string. Better go buy some more. This is a really interesting idea, I think this is probably very accurate. Good shout! |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Dec 29, 2016 14:56:22 GMT
Hmm. Those two large men in overalls who lift Yuri and ask him to leave the tiger alone... do they remind anyone else of the delivery men from B&H? Perhaps the polka dot clown isn't the only member of An Other Circus we've seen before. Can't wait to hear more of Gertrude's tapes! Since delivery men allegedly moved the calliope away back in MAG24, and Breekon and Hope have a history of delivering unwanted artifacts to the Institute, I'm gonna put this up as prediction number three in my sig. |
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Post by spooniermist on Jan 5, 2017 21:33:39 GMT
The more I listen to this episode, the more I think it feels so closely tied with the Smiths from Anatomy Class, including the lady at the entrance and the tiger. |
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Post by spooniermist on Jan 6, 2017 23:26:25 GMT
Finally getting around to updating the wiki with these later episodes. Just done this one: the-magnus-archives.wikia.com/wiki/MAG_44:_TightropeSomething that I don't think that has been covered here is that the circus in this one vs the troupe in MAG 23: Strange Music have two different names, 'Drugoy Tsirk' ('Another Circus') and Tsirk Drugogo (Цирк другого): Circus of the Other, so they're not the same. This strikes me as strange, as I assumed it was some sort of occult circus that praised a demon or something, hence all the name referring to 'Another' or 'The other'. But I'm less sure of this now that they have different names, although they had similar players. I'm trying to work out a theory about this being some sort of church to a god, maybe Asaag (but I don't think so), I'm thinking this has sort of thrown that into dispute. I'll gather more evidence then put something up. |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Jan 7, 2017 12:07:14 GMT
To be quite honest, translating anything from a language as different as Russian (it doesn't even share an alphabet with English, let alone grammatical consistency) so it seems reasonable that one (or both!) could be a mistranslation to me |
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Post by spooniermist on Jan 7, 2017 13:09:00 GMT
But the Russian is given and is different in both cases? Unless Russian doesn't care about the order of words...
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