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Post by Oneiros on Mar 2, 2017 8:15:27 GMT
A tax inspector has the stuffing knocked out of them by a strange encounter... A very unsettling episode this week, I felt - not so much for the profession involved but the general air of disquiet that surrounds both these occupations was very nicely realised. Plus the addition of Daniel Rawlings was a very nice touch along with the business being still extant.
Although, is anyone else left a bit disconcerted that it was 'Sasha' who went to investigate?
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Post by spooniermist on Mar 2, 2017 8:46:20 GMT
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Post by cannonlongshot on Mar 2, 2017 10:15:17 GMT
Well, if I hadn't relistened to MAG44: Tightrope on a whim yesterday, I wouldn't be able to mention that the tiger in the shop window is described with a curl in its mouth in a very similar way to a tiger that toured Russia half a century ago. (Signature Theory 3 is looking like a better call every week!)
Also, gosh darn it, Sims, do I need to get the Edinburgh Six tattooed on my arm so I notice when they show up?!
The Archivist is now getting dangerously blasé about breaking the law - if this escalates for five seasons we could be looking at a very different show by the end!
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Post by cannonlongshot on Mar 2, 2017 10:17:26 GMT
Although, is anyone else left a bit disconcerted that it was 'Sasha' who went to investigate? Let's be honest here, though no one else knows it, she's probably the safest person to send...
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Post by spooniermist on Mar 2, 2017 11:37:59 GMT
The wiki page is up!This was a really good episode. Nice and unrelated to the ongoing arcs on the surface, but digging deeper you see the lines. I think that Dan and Sarah must be in the thrall of some entity, and the figure in the basement was the angler fish, although if that's just another pawn of a higher power I don't know. Actually, there's an interesting parallel with Michael here (AND WHEN ISN'T THERE?!) - Michael asked if 'your hand owns your stomach' when Sims asked if he owned the crooked hallways, as though Michael is an entity that guides 'food' into the 'stomach' of the dimension. What if the Angler fish is the hand that guides people into the power of another entity? Also there's a bit of a theme of being watched going on. Sims has always mentioned this, that he feels he's being watched when he reads these statements, and Walter in the previous episode and now Gertrude is removing the eyes from pictures... I wonder if it's some entity that oversees the archives throughout history?
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Post by archangel1313 on Mar 2, 2017 13:02:16 GMT
Actually, there's an interesting parallel with Michael here (AND WHEN ISN'T THERE?!) - Michael asked if 'your hand owns your stomach' when Sims asked if he owned the crooked hallways, as though Michael is an entity that guides 'food' into the 'stomach' of the dimension. What if the Angler fish is the hand that guides people into the power of another entity? Ripping my idea dude
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Post by archangel1313 on Mar 2, 2017 13:04:26 GMT
Also there's a bit of a theme of being watched going on. Sims has always mentioned this, that he feels he's being watched when he reads these statements, and Walter in the previous episode and now Gertrude is removing the eyes from pictures... I wonder if it's some entity that oversees the archives throughout history? Also, ive noticed that of all the statements that are even tenuosly linked to the church of the divine host, has characters, including Sims describe the feeling. its probably endemic to its 'condition'.
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Post by spooniermist on Mar 2, 2017 14:03:09 GMT
Actually, there's an interesting parallel with Michael here (AND WHEN ISN'T THERE?!) - Michael asked if 'your hand owns your stomach' when Sims asked if he owned the crooked hallways, as though Michael is an entity that guides 'food' into the 'stomach' of the dimension. What if the Angler fish is the hand that guides people into the power of another entity? Ripping my idea dude Oh yeah! Sorry! This idea is totally taken from archangel1313, no my idea (in fact, I saw it as more of a metaphor before archangel1313 mentioned it )
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Post by szgrey on Mar 2, 2017 15:23:03 GMT
I didn't realize he was one of the Edinburgh disappearances until Sims mentioned it, but I connected him with Sarah Baldwin when he started chain-smoking to cover up the sick-sweet preservative smell...
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Post by cannonlongshot on Mar 2, 2017 15:28:31 GMT
Also, we're assuming the not-making-eye-contact was because he had glass eyes, yes?
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Post by Samwise on Mar 2, 2017 16:20:38 GMT
cannonlongshot great find! they even describe the Tiger having glassy eyes in MAG 44, we all know TMA, this is probably not a coincidence!
great to hear another missing person from Edinburgh is still around, he seemed a lot more charismatic than Sarah, she acted like she was a creepy abomination created by a equally creepy Angler fish creature. Sims describing him having the same hair but everything else about him being different was creepy, it reminded me of MAG 35 (Anatomy Class) with the bodies bones moving under their skin and distorting.
if he is the same...thing as Sarah Baldwin, when her skin was removed, wasn't it Black underneath?
cannonlongshot I'm pretty sure they confirm he has glass eyes when he turned and looks at Alexander. although Sasha and Sims didn't mention anything weird about the eyes.
spooniermist archangel1313 I like the idea! you think we've met the big bad?
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Post by Samwise on Mar 2, 2017 16:46:18 GMT
Just realised no one mentioned this... the 2 Cockneys... Beacon and Hope?
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Post by archangel1313 on Mar 3, 2017 4:39:06 GMT
I had an idea regarding Michael and his metaphors in regards to spooniermists dimension theory, ill post a message I sent him detailing the long and short of it: "Well, I was listening to MAG47, and what Michael said really struck me. Specifically the part about hands and stomachs. Perhaps his analogy was more apt than we realise. It is obviously implied that he is part of a larger being. Maybe he is quite literally the hand that fetches sustenance. The stomach being the dimension. In this analogy, the door would be the mouth. The hand placed the food into the mouth and was swallowed. Quite stomach churning (pun not intended). This provides even more parallels with MAG30. If anything, the plant is even more obviously like a stomach. With Joseph Han being the hand. Both witnesses are said or seen to be guided to a door by the other who in some form have active agency. Could they be 2 instances of different beings? This does beg the question of why Han let David Laylow go of what seems to be there own accord. Of course from a literary point of view this blocks off the other thematic episodes that appear to have links with one but not the other such as Mag18, and 49 in regards of meat. It does lend credence to Mag21 and 51 for the swallowing aspect but little else. It also leaves off the other dimensions that you mention. " i don't quite think we've met him just yet, but perhaps we e been seeing it's agents for longer then we have realised.
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Post by cannonlongshot on Mar 5, 2017 22:40:31 GMT
1) Literally somehow missed that the face in the basement might be the Angler Fish, despite a) Jonathan (and Jonny's) identical delivery of "Do you want a cigarette?" and "We've got one down here, I'll show you" and b) spooniermist pointed it out above 2) You're killing me here, Jonny - there's no indication anywhere in the statement of a date or time. If there isn't further timeline chicanery in this case (Hilltop Road is the bane of my wiki-editing experience...), is it safe to say that the events of this statement occurred in the first half of 2013, using an average length of time between observation and statement?
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Post by Jonny on Mar 6, 2017 11:26:19 GMT
2) You're killing me here, Jonny - there's no indication anywhere in the statement of a date or time. If there isn't further timeline chicanery in this case (Hilltop Road is the bane of my wiki-editing experience...), is it safe to say that the events of this statement occurred in the first half of 2013, using an average length of time between observation and statement? That is probably a reasonable assumption
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