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Post by Oneiros on Mar 22, 2018 8:29:23 GMT
OR: "The ties that blind"We're heading back into the darkness and the territory where blankets don't do anything, as the Sandman cometh. But I doubt they'll be entering to the strains of Metallica  Turns out the Bringer of Sleep is represented in the Magnus-verse, though we're a far cry from the Neil Gaiman depiction of Morpheus. We're in the realm of sands that scour and blind, bringing eternal darkness to those that would see. And the man Maxwell Rayner, apparently moving in respectable circles in 1864, some 153 years before his demise at the hands of the police. And what of Melanie & Martin both recording statements about night-time terrors? Some great interaction between the assistants this week and we find out that, like Tim, Melanie has been testing the boundaries of her employment... So, have you got enough light to see where to put this week's red string? 
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Post by hyoscyamus on Mar 22, 2018 10:58:44 GMT
Crossposting from reddit again.Nice to hear interactions from the cast again. Tim was great here. He has the right idea, but I wonder how much bad that will do to him in the long run. My money is on him for getting turned into one of those eye-monsters that were found in the old Archives as a 'useless' follower who tries to get away. But he's definitely right that information sharing would be better! Aaaw, Martin is so cute! But since I firmly subscribe to the theory that we, the listeners, are in the role of the Beholding, I totally disagree with his wish for more privacy! As I said before elsewhere: FEED ME, SEYMORE Martin! XD It's quite obvious that the statements affect him very deeply. This is a reason why I think he wouldn't be able to become the next 'Archivist', although he might pick up some powers soon. Good that Melanie seems to have less problems with reading the statements (yet). She's a very determined, practical woman, trying to poison Elias was more clever than he wanted to admit. He's likely just too used to guard himself to fall for this. I wonder how many people have tried to kill him over the years? And whether he genuinely is trying to help making it easier for everyone, as he says, or whether this is a ploy? He continues to be very interesting! And very neat to hear more about Maxwell Rayner, leader of the Peoples' Church of the Divine Host. Are the members of his cult servants or victims? The screams people heard coming from the church that one day suggest the latter. And another question is whether there will be an attempted ritual similar to the Unknowing in Ny-Ålesund soon? Natalie Ennis mentioned a 300 year waiting period that was soon over. Is this the time at which such a ritual can be done by the Mr. Pitch ilk? And what are the conditions that are met then? So many questions! 
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Post by liraven on Mar 23, 2018 4:10:07 GMT
Turns out the Bringer of Sleep is represented in the Magnus-verse, though we're a far cry from the Neil Gaiman depiction of Morpheus... I really like the description of the Darkness in this statement. Not just the absence of light, but almost a physical presence. Oddly enough, I'd totally forgotten about reading a similar story to the Sandman as a child. Don't recall the bit about the eyes, but there was definitely something horrible that stuffed children into sacks if they stayed up too late. Which of course is what I was doing at the time I read it.  Why are children's stories always so freaking terrifying? Nice to hear interactions from the cast again. Tim was great here. He has the right idea, but I wonder how much bad that will do to him in the long run. My money is on him for getting turned into one of those eye-monsters that were found in the old Archives as a 'useless' follower who tries to get away... Not the cyclops monster!  I was a little disappointed in Tim for refusing to help Martin, but I agree it was nice to have a conversation between the two. So Jon couldn't talk to Tim without reaching for a tape recorder huh? That's... not great news. He really might get jealous of Martin reading statements. We may be in the role, but I still believe Beholding is a powerful, terrifying entity within the Magnus universe itself. So it really bothers me that Martin addressed the Eye directly and even seemed to get a response of some kind with his sudden stop and then the part about "fine, if you're that eager". Tim may be worryingly apathetic right now, but Martin's swinging way too far in the other direction for my comfort. Hopefully the others start helping with those statements soon.  Elias is such a good character. During the first season, I never suspected he was anything other than a typical high-level manager: well-meaning but somewhat oblivious to the events happening at the ground level of the organization. It was easy to accept everything he told Jon after the Prentiss attack. Even after all his expert manipulation (not to mention the brutal pipe murder), he still maintains the same mildly pleasant, businesslike manner, so it's difficult to tell when he's feigning ignorance. Like this week with Melanie when he comments on her thoughtfulness even though he knows the coffee is poisoned. It's disarming and makes him much too easy to underestimate. Hopefully Melanie drops the assassination plot because Elias's threat to 'escalate matters' sounds incredibly ominous. Talk about dreading your employee review. Paranoid tinfoil hat thoughts about Elias and the Prentiss attack: Really Mr. Knowledge, you had a new fire suppression system installed but couldn't figure out how it worked until Jon and Tim were inches from death? Wonder if Elias told the whole truth about what he was doing that evening. He certainly didn't tell Jon everything about what happened to Gertrude. |
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Post by hyoscyamus on Mar 24, 2018 5:21:35 GMT
Not the cyclops monster! I was a little disappointed in Tim for refusing to help Martin, but I agree it was nice to have a conversation between the two. So Jon couldn't talk to Tim without reaching for a tape recorder huh? That's... not great news. He really might get jealous of Martin reading statements. () Hopefully Melanie drops the assassination plot because Elias's threat to 'escalate matters' sounds incredibly ominous. Talk about dreading your employee review. Hehe, Jon is really deep in Beholding's grasp by now. I don't think he'll get jealous, though. At least not now that he knows why the statements have to be made in this way. Before? Ouch, that could've gotten awkward. Or maybe the cyclops-monsters are the heart of the Archive in question and it's what Elias will turn into in the long run. Or it's a punishment after all and Melanie is now first place on the shitty-employee-list. XD The recorder was turning itself on as Melanie came in, so he knew Beholding was listening in. That could've tipped him off that something was up instead of him knowing about it all along. Oh, it absolutely is one of the cosmic horrors! And yes, Martin does swing in the direction of a true servant like Jon, even if he's feeling unwell about it. Martin was addressing the Beholding as an entity that he has to serve. Him addressing the turned on recorder is the same as people looking up and muttering some complaints to god, just to vent a bit. He was probably just suddenly feeling silly talking to the recorder like this. And since the thing didn't turn itself off after he made his complaint, he was going on. Could've been a funny scene, though. "You know what? A little bit more privacy would be nice!!!" *ploploploplop ten eyes open and gawk directly at him* "Um...fine. I..if you insist." (°A °") XD Agreed! He's one of my favorite characters. It's much too rare to see/hear well-written evil characters and it's so much fun! Eh, I don't think he told the truth. Seeing how he let Not!Sasha run around and didn't warn anyone about anything this was most likely one of his "you have to find out/fight them yourself" moments. And when he saw they weren't making it, he intervened after all. Maybe just because he didn't want to look for a new Archivist so soon, especially since Jon was already speeding on his paranoia-path right into Beholding's grasp. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 22:53:24 GMT
"Elias is such a good character. During the first season, I never suspected he was anything other than a typical high-level manager: well-meaning but somewhat oblivious to the events happening at the ground level of the organization."
Love it! The oblivious high level entity is a real source of terror.
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Post by liraven on Mar 25, 2018 23:34:32 GMT
Could've been a funny scene, though... Yeah, it would be odd to hear Beholding or any of the powers speak like that. I meant something more subtle though like a feeling or thought. Martin's recorded his poetry on tape since the end of season one for its 'low-fi charm'. If Beholding truly listens through the recorders, then that's a rather personal piece of himself to share for such a long time, even unintentionally. And as a creative person, I'd assume Martin seeks out inspiration or is at least open to it. He might be listening in a way the others aren't, is all I mean. A sound and likely possibility. I shall raise you one level of insanity. Did anyone actually see Prentiss die? With Jon and Tim taking aggro and CO 2 gas all around Elias could have... I dunno, muttered something unintelligible and stabbed her with a scalpel, a la Gerard in 'First Aid'? Probably the avatars don't need anything special to die and I've plunged off the deep end. Hope not though (come back Michael Crew!) The oblivious high level entity is a real source of terror. Yes, the horror is real! I've worked for places with managers like that. It's smart of Beholding to use a professional organization like the Magnus Institute to hide plain sight. I mean, if a hooded cultist asks you to sign some shady old parchment with a quill dipped in blood, no thanks. But a suit in a nice, professional office who's a little too nitpicky about the forms? Sure, no one reads the fine print anyway and everything seems reputable. Not to mention the socially accepted mantras of: 'do a good job', 'don't fail your team', 'don't fail your boss'. That pressure is intense even without a dose of extra juice from an existential terror. |
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Post by hyoscyamus on Mar 26, 2018 10:17:34 GMT
Yeah, it would be odd to hear Beholding or any of the powers speak like that. I meant something more subtle though like a feeling or thought. Martin's recorded his poetry on tape since the end of season one for its 'low-fi charm'. If Beholding truly listens through the recorders, then that's a rather personal piece of himself to share for such a long time, even unintentionally. And as a creative person, I'd assume Martin seeks out inspiration or is at least open to it. He might be listening in a way the others aren't, is all I mean. Yes, that might also be a reason why the statements seem to affect him so much more than the others. Hehe, possibly. It could also have been Not!Sasha. She said she came in after the gas and removed the dead worms from Tim and Jon. Enough time for a quick slash to a conked out body-hive. The oblivious high level entity is a real source of terror. Yes, the horror is real! I've worked for places with managers like that. It's smart of Beholding to use a professional organization like the Magnus Institute to hide plain sight. I mean, if a hooded cultist asks you to sign some shady old parchment with a quill dipped in blood, no thanks. But a suit in a nice, professional office who's a little too nitpicky about the forms? Sure, no one reads the fine print anyway and everything seems reputable. Not to mention the socially accepted mantras of: 'do a good job', 'don't fail your team', 'don't fail your boss'. That pressure is intense even without a dose of extra juice from an existential terror. One could argue the nice suits with the fine print are the modern version of cultists with blood ink often enough. |
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Why are children's stories always so freaking terrifying?
I was a little disappointed in Tim for refusing to help Martin, but I agree it was nice to have a conversation between the two. So Jon couldn't talk to Tim without reaching for a tape recorder huh? That's... not great news. He really might get jealous of Martin reading statements.
