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Post by sbread on Aug 25, 2017 12:19:01 GMT
The transcript has just been released, and something I missed upon listening is when Not-Sasha said: "You’ll miss the Unknowing, of course, but you wouldn't understand it anyway." I wonder what the Unknowing is, what a curious name! I'm glad this has been brought up, I read the transcript as soon as it was uploaded and this has been bugging me all morning! I'm assuming The Unknowing is the endgame of the series. Some sort of cataclysmic event involving various factions we've seen so far and no doubt ones we've yet to encounter. There's a book on Christian mysticism called The Cloud of Unknowing which talks of abandoning conscious thought and will in order to become closer to God, which is certainly something that could easily be respun into a more insidious context...
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Post by sbread on Aug 24, 2017 8:39:35 GMT
I really don't understand what happened to Not-Sasha at the end, is it clear from what we heard? It seems like she just... disappeared? I'm not sure, super interested in who the man at the end is, I suspect Leitner, or maybe the guv'ner mentioned in an earlier episode, or maybe a member of the illusive Lucas family? It'll be hard to know for sure what happened to her until next week, but I really hope that's not how she bows out as that would be quite the anticlimax. If it is Leitner (and he's my safe bet on who it could be) perhaps he's found some leather-bound way of warding off this entity. If it's Adelard Decker, as some have suggested, we know he's got tricks up his sleeve for dealing with this particular monster. My guess is that the voice is Jonah Magnus, btw. Jonah is my long-shot bet. The formality of his address, and just the general tone of his voice suggest somebody of a bygone era.
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Post by sbread on Aug 24, 2017 8:07:34 GMT
My money is on Leitner being the man in the tunnels. I've seen a few suggestions that it could be Gerard Keay which I could get behind if it weren't for the fact he's got such a distinctive look I'd have thought the archivist would recognise him. Whoever it turns out to be, the voice actor delivered their first line tremendously - I've got goosebumps!
Loads to unpick from the monster's "statement", chief among my questions being how it became friends with Breekon & Hope, and why it was sent to spy on the institute.
Also, Martin K. Blackwood poetry as a patreon bonus or I begin a revolt!
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Post by sbread on Aug 17, 2017 8:43:26 GMT
I'm looking forward to the road trip through the labyrinth dimension that Jonny and Mickey will clearly be going on next week. That's a buddy road trip movie I would pay good money to see! Be right back, I'm copyrighting "Dimensional Planes, Ghost Trains and Automobiles"
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Post by sbread on Aug 4, 2017 14:49:46 GMT
This is frustrating... I remember hearing something about the video of Melanie yelling before, but can't find a record of it in MAG28. Does anyone remember where else it might have been mentioned? I need it to accurately date the statement beyond "March/April"... She came in while MAG 063 - The End of the Tunnel - was being recorded. That's when she mentioned the video and needing to use the library, as well as when she mentioned the "new girl" working in the archives... That statement was recorded after Daisy's "live" statement on 1st December, and before Tessa Winters came in on 7th January... so late December is most likely when Melanie came in.
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Post by sbread on Aug 3, 2017 18:24:05 GMT
Any theories as to why Melanie can tell that it's Not Sasha? She's so positive about it. Maybe it's a side effect of the other ways she's questioning the world as she knows it, including the paranormal world. That's pretty much my theory too, although it begs the question of how Amy Patel recognised Not Graham.
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Post by sbread on Aug 3, 2017 7:53:35 GMT
There's some serious red string to follow here, and apologies but I'm just going to copy my post on the subreddit: the violence described here brings to mind Grifter's Bone, and in that statement while Jennifer is describing the music she hears she says 'over them all, the pure piping sound of a flute'. It doesn't take much of a leap to connect this to MAG 7 - The Piper, where Wilfred Owen says that "the war" played 'pipes of scrimshawed bone'. This brings the war connection full circle to this statement, but you know what else makes a haunting piping sound? Calliope organs. That might be a stretch but given the violent death of Josh in MAG 24, I wouldn't say it's out of the realms of possibility that the Circus of the Other is connected.
A more definite connection is the Rayner family given that Joseph Rayner is mentioned in MAG 7... is the "divine host" some sort of embodiment of war? Maybe the same "war" that Wilfred Owen met? His description of 'blood and sodden soil flow[ing] out like a waterfall' isn't dissimilar to Basira's description of Rayner when she finds him in MAG 73: 'Something was flowing out of his mouth. It looked like ink but it flowed more like a heavy fog than any sort of liquid'.
I'm not completely on board with the Four Horsemen theory that's doing the rounds, but I do think that these statements (and quite possibly a few others) are connected to some sort of primordial embodiment/spirit of war and/or violence.
I'm really hoping that Melanie will join the team at some point, as I love the back and forth she has with Jonathan. All in all, this episode was once again an absolute thrill to listen to, but it's going to be a long week waiting to hear Gertrude's next tape!
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Post by sbread on Jul 13, 2017 8:49:36 GMT
Time to draw a line under the People's Church of the Divine Host, right? That's Maxwell Rayner and even Natalie Ennis accounted for, so all done and dusted. And the boy was rescued - so go Section 31! The blind optimism here actually made me laugh out loud! Wonderful episode, if frustrating in the amount of new questions it opens up without really giving us answers. I really hope this isn't the last we hear from Basira as she's been one of my favourite elements of Season 2. There's an awful lot to unpick from this statement but I'll start by asking the two most burning questions I have out loud: Is Michael the one tipping off the police? And what is Callum Brody's significance?
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Post by sbread on Jul 9, 2017 20:53:55 GMT
I also found myself thinking about the bin bag of identical teeth found not so far away in Leytonstone a year later. And I thought about the fact that they were all in varying stages of decay, which - in light of this episode - is really quite disturbing. Not only that but the bin bag full of torn out bits of The Lord's Prayer could well have been from the stack of Bibles in the kebab shop!
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Post by sbread on Jul 7, 2017 10:41:59 GMT
Cor blimey, this one was worth the wait! I'm going to go so far as to say this is my favourite episode to date. I was disgusted, scared, and yet fully engrossed from beginning to end. I wonder if Eustace Wick is connected to the Haan family at all? Also, since he seems to somehow be able to reproduce severed body parts and lives in the Waltham area, I wonder if Tom Haan has ever tried his hand at some amateur dentistry? Don't even get me started on Basira and Maxwell Raynor. Wonder if we'll get another statement from her next week?
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Post by sbread on Jun 29, 2017 11:59:24 GMT
Even though the name Karolina Górka doesn't really fit the pattern (as far as I know), I'm reminded of the description of the students from Anatomy Class. She spoke so matter-of-factly, and without even the faintest hint of an accent one might expect from somebody with that name. Even at the scariest points of her statement, her voice was unflinching and cold. I'd be willing to place a small bet that she's at the very least not all she appears to be.
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Post by sbread on Jun 15, 2017 12:39:48 GMT
I'm pretty much going to repeat what I said on the subreddit... I'm firmly in the pro-spider camp so this episode didn't scare me as such, but it did give me an idea about the spiders we've encountered so far.
My theory, still very much in development, is that the spiders (both in this episode and in File #16 with the one haunting Carlos Vittery) are some sort of embodiment of fear itself. This would explain the manifestation of spiders around arachnophobes, as well as the cobwebs appearing below the archives which coincide with Jonathan's increasing fear of what lies beneath.
The problem with that theory is Hill Top Road and Raymond Fielding, neither of which seem to have been associated with fear before the spiders showed up. However, it's entirely possible that the entity which Father Burroughs encountered at the house was haunting Fielding long before, which in turn could have caused the arrival of spiders.
It's occurred to me as I'm writing this that the arachnophobia/spider link could also be the work of a heretofore unseen foe (or possibly one of the background players who has already been mentioned) who is capable of bringing a lot more fears to life. Laura and Aleana Popham's cave exploration in #15, Paul McKenzie's nighttime intruder in #27, Andrea Nunis getting lost in Genoa in #48, in fact a lot of the more 'standalone' cases we've heard relate to fairly common fears being brought to life... now that I've written that I realise that this is pretty much the object of all horror storytelling so ignore me, I'm just tied up in red string.
Sidenote: Did anybody catch where this sits on the timeline? I wasn't at all clear on the date of the events.
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Post by sbread on Mar 9, 2017 9:03:19 GMT
I'm fine with most bugs and other creepy-crawlies, but ants send shivers up my spine so you can imagine how deeply disturbed I was by the Bromley flat. A thought about John Amherst: The name sounded familiar to me when I first heard it in #0121911 but I had to Google it when I heard it again this time. Is it pure coincidence that he shares a family name with the general who suggested using germ warfare on Native Americans during the Seven Years' War? Maybe a clever reference from Jonny, or - given that we know the series often intertwines with real life history - some relation or reincarnation of the man himself?
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Post by sbread on Mar 8, 2017 18:20:19 GMT
Zero to current in a week... Are you... are you ok? I'd love to know what sbread 's dreams have been like in that week! It's funny you should say that... I had my first waking-up-in-a-cold-sweat nightmare in years on Saturday night. I've also generally been way more jittery and less keen on being alone in the dark. My imagination's gone into overdrive! sbread , if you're the same one who's started editing the Magnus Archives wiki, I'd like to say thanks! Spooniermist is pretty much the sole regular editor, as I've planted my flag on the shores of the Timeline page like a conquistadore. That's me cannonlongshot - I've been using the wiki a lot and at the moment I'm just making quick fixes as I see them for now but I plan on becoming a bigger contributor whenever I have the spare time. You and Spooniermist have done a fantastic job there!
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Post by sbread on Mar 7, 2017 18:19:21 GMT
Hey everyone! I'm Steve, and I've been listening to Magnus for a week. Managed to get up to date in that time and it's safe to say I'm thoroughly entranced (and terrified)! Haven't needed this much red string since Fringe had its heyday! Look forward to swapping conspiracy theories with you all
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