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Post by Oneiros on Jun 1, 2017 7:36:46 GMT
Ah, the curious tale of attraction and what happens when an incited heart makes potentially questionable decisions and ends up getting burnt. Okay, enough with the fire puns  Today's tale is a strange intersection of past stories and characters woven with a rather tragic tale of confused feelings. The sort you get when you don't know why you're attracted to something potentially quite dangerous. But we do get to see more of Agnes Fielding/Montague and the picture being painted there, whilst unsettling, does kinda make you feel for her. And then we get that interaction with Elias in the supplemental - we can only hope that the Archivist heeds his words and proceeds with caution (and gets some rest), can't we? |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Jun 1, 2017 8:42:00 GMT
Agnes, Agnes Montague
Grew up in Oxford in a room with a view
Always happy to start a fire
And ended her life in a funeral pyre
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Post by julsbo on Jun 1, 2017 20:19:34 GMT
What I want to know is, why is Elias so adamant that Jonathan cannot be replaced? Coming on the back of the Tim/John argument when they both suddenly realised they couldn't quit, it all seems very suspicious. Is the Archivist playing a part in some sort of ritual? And is his need to go back into the tunnels part of it, or is it some sort of... compulsion? There are quite a few spiders down there, after all...
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Post by archangel1313 on Jun 3, 2017 17:05:23 GMT
Does the woman with the short cropped hair remind anyone else of the woman who burned down ivy meadows care home in mag27? If they are one and the same it raises a whole swathe of questions. How are the various insect statements connected? Are they all flesh hives, just different strains? How is Trevor Herbert connected? Did he switch quarries after the spider incident? And maybe the cult is trying to push them back, but how does that involve apparent ritual sacrifice? And what exactly is Agnes Montague? Was hilltop road just another part in their attempt to push them back?
There are are so many potential red threads running through here.
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Post by aslee on Jun 4, 2017 21:28:17 GMT
I feel like the Cult of the Lightless Flame is in direct combat with the Hive and their weird supporters, but I'm not entirely sure if that makes them good. I had hoped that Agnes had been a force of good, but it's possible I let her being a child in most statements blind me. Unless... Listen, this is a bit farfetched, but everything about this seems weird in a way my brain wants to go miles above to solve.
What if Agnes is the victim of some kind of prophecy shenanigans? Probably something to do with her powers, but I don't know if she received her powers because of the prophecy, or if the prophecy said she would have powers and she was born that way. I also don't know if her father adopted her because of the prophecy, or did so unknowingly. Either way, I'm fairly convinced that the group sought her out because she's supposed to take down the insect villainy that's been going on. Furthermore, given her actions in this episode, I'm also certain that this isn't a task or a power she relishes-- She simply wants to be normal, but given her powers and those that know about them, it's not an option.
Which leads me to a few questions: How many people with flames inside them exist? Are they born that way? Is it compulsive for all of them, or do some more enthusiastic members drag the less willing into it? Did Agnes kill herself out of grief for a life she'll never be able to live, or was she murdered? If she was murdered, did her own cult or the Hive do it? Where does all the eye motifs fit into this?
I don't have many thoughts about the supplementary, although it is pretty cool that John has the key? Oh, and we got to hear Ben! That's always nice.
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Post by julsbo on Jun 5, 2017 12:49:46 GMT
Which leads me to a few questions: How many people with flames inside them exist? Are they born that way? Is it compulsive for all of them, or do some more enthusiastic members drag the less willing into it? Well, we know of at least one person who ended up with "flames inside him" pretty unwillingly, and he also self-immolated. Which makes me wonder if the ritual circle he stumbled into in Scotland was indicating that Gertrude was being targeted to become a human torch as well. (And just think of everything she would have taken with her. Rosa Parks certainly seemed to be aware of that, too...) |
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Post by cannonlongshot on Jun 5, 2017 14:14:29 GMT
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Post by julsbo on Jun 5, 2017 14:57:23 GMT
Yes, I do indeed mean Rosa Meyer. (Principled stand on a bus, hijacking a van and filling it with petrol - you can see how I'd confuse the two, right?) |
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Post by Samwise on Jun 28, 2017 11:08:00 GMT
Does the woman with the short cropped hair remind anyone else of the woman who burned down ivy meadows care home in mag27? If they are one and the same it raises a whole swathe of questions. How are the various insect statements connected? Are they all flesh hives, just different strains? How is Trevor Herbert connected? Did he switch quarries after the spider incident? And maybe the cult is trying to push them back, but how does that involve apparent ritual sacrifice? And what exactly is Agnes Montague? Was hilltop road just another part in their attempt to push them back? There are are so many potential red threads running through here.
did we ever connect the flesh hives with Ivy Meadows?
I can see they would be connected, if you remember the nurse banging on the windows opening her mouth and flies swarming out... sounds like a flesh hive to me.
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Post by Henry on Jul 1, 2017 2:22:35 GMT
Does the woman with the short cropped hair remind anyone else of the woman who burned down ivy meadows care home in mag27? This, and the burning down of the care home, remind me of the narrator of #33, who made a point of saying she shaved her head? H |
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